tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8828727132315088852.post3317129015611973525..comments2024-01-18T08:29:25.601+00:00Comments on Writer Revealed: NaNoWriMo and 87 Points of OutlineDollyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08144739453424963436noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8828727132315088852.post-44675018307589519612009-11-12T20:51:37.989+00:002009-11-12T20:51:37.989+00:00Jamie,
I suppose it could be scene outline, becau...Jamie,<br /><br />I suppose it could be scene outline, because I don't exactly know what scene outline is supposed to look like. But I would call it more like "event" outline - bit like mine. This happens, then this happens, then this happens. But in outline, we don't describe HOW it happens. That's for writing. So yes, I do a similar enough thing.Dollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08144739453424963436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8828727132315088852.post-13865791656058410872009-11-12T18:03:36.872+00:002009-11-12T18:03:36.872+00:00I think I might be labeling what serves as my &quo...I think I might be labeling what serves as my "outline" incorrectly. I don't actually outline each scene, but rather write a synopsis of each scene to tell me what happens to who in that time/space. <br /><br />So my "outline" looks something like: <br /><br />Scene: Girl sits at outdoor bistro table, note flutters at her feet, she picks it up. Something in the contents shocks her. <br /><br />Scene: Man follows girl as she rushes down the street with the note in hand She's going to the police department - does she make it? <br /><br />Scene: Girl is in trunk of car, kidnapped. She's trying to figure out how to either break out, or quietly signal for help. <br /><br />You get the idea. I leave a lot of leeway for what actually happens, they're more like prompts to keep the story moving in a logical fashion, and to keep the plot from veering too far off it's normal course (or from being hijacked by subplots). <br /><br />What would you call that? A scene synopsis outline, maybe? LOLJamie D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05486427517423813962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8828727132315088852.post-50656785382767218122009-11-12T16:09:30.173+00:002009-11-12T16:09:30.173+00:00Matt, I have written first drafts like that - thou...Matt, I have written first drafts like that - though mostly without description, but with dialogue. In fact, even my current draft would need descriptions. But it's something I always have trouble with. <br /><br />About the blog look, sorry you prferred the older one. Though mind you, I might get bored of this eventually and go back to Black. We shall see.<br /><br />LOL..Finn, prisoner. That's funny!Dollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08144739453424963436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8828727132315088852.post-47172461955086446762009-11-12T01:52:49.948+00:002009-11-12T01:52:49.948+00:00Outlines are so helpful to me in just knowing wher...Outlines are so helpful to me in just knowing where the story's going. I really write a story of scenes without description or dialogue and call that an outline.<br /><br />Your new look is clean, but I liked the black.<br /><br />Oh, and about Finn. Call it his/her bag, not yours. Sounds like a prisoner otherwise.MC Howehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12135224394821535801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8828727132315088852.post-82883073755422185322009-11-11T23:31:13.911+00:002009-11-11T23:31:13.911+00:00C R, thanks :-) Good luck with your NaNo, and let ...C R, thanks :-) Good luck with your NaNo, and let me know how the outline attempt works out for you when you try it.<br /><br />**<br /><br />dirtywhitecandy,<br /><br />Thanks for stopping by and commenting. :) Our outline method sounds pretty similar. Not quite double NaNo, but I am intending to write full first draft of my novel (between 80K to 90K) as a NaNo challenge, instead of just the 50K.Dollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08144739453424963436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8828727132315088852.post-25859181998996956862009-11-11T21:56:47.752+00:002009-11-11T21:56:47.752+00:00After writing a 60,000-word monster without an out...After writing a 60,000-word monster without an outline, I've always outlined! Like you, I write enough to feel I know where I'm going, but allow myself leeway to still be creative. <br />Great wordcount... sounds like you could do a double NaNo!Roz Morris aka @Roz_Morris . Blog: Nail Your Novelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10088813423467048081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8828727132315088852.post-90019092148509248092009-11-11T20:30:48.114+00:002009-11-11T20:30:48.114+00:00Count me, too, among those jealous of your word co...Count me, too, among those jealous of your word count! <br /><br />Maybe I'll have to try one of those outline thingies . . . next year. :-)C R Wardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13212244053084461118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8828727132315088852.post-79915648692390882722009-11-11T15:54:07.067+00:002009-11-11T15:54:07.067+00:00Jamie,
I have always been curious about people wh...Jamie,<br /><br />I have always been curious about people who do scene outlines. I did attempt, but to be honest, I have no idea when the scene will begin or end for most of the time. That tends to come out of writing. How do you do it? Do you just know? <br /><br />And as for NaNo word count, I am leading a very unbalanced existence by focusing on NaNo only, so that makes it easier to get it done. <br /><br />**<br />HD,<br /><br />Glad you like the new look. Suddenly looking at my blog last night, it seemed to crowded, so I thought a revamp was required. <br /><br />**<br />Erica,<br /><br />While my organisation skills are fine, my discipline is terrible, so being organised is almost a necessity otherwise I would never get anything done. That's why having short deadline for NaNo helps, because less time to get distracted. <br /><br />And totally agree with you about being able to write more than we think. I think we waste so much time in our day-to-day activity, it's easy to imagine we are far busier than we actually are.<br /><br />**<br />Tara,<br /><br />I think even if you think are organic writer, it's worth at least trying an outline. It may not work for you, but until you try it, you wouldn't know.<br /><br />And I don't agree with having fixed word-length per scene or per chapter or anything, because you just cannot know how long that particular segment will be until you write it. That sort of considerations come much later when the book is polished. In the beginning, the story should be given more creative reign.Dollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08144739453424963436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8828727132315088852.post-74554061043403116712009-11-11T15:19:26.432+00:002009-11-11T15:19:26.432+00:00Thanks for sharing this. I haven't worked off ...Thanks for sharing this. I haven't worked off an outline yet, but I'm beginning to think it's worth a try. I like that you're allowing your scenes (or points) to end where they need to end. Sometimes pushing for a word count can get in the way of the story.Tara McClendonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07246124060126729229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8828727132315088852.post-52332291471920103872009-11-11T05:21:35.970+00:002009-11-11T05:21:35.970+00:00Yeah your word count= totally awesome :) Love the ...Yeah your word count= totally awesome :) Love the new layout- Ha- I just got a new one myself, we must be on the same wavelength. You know what I'm also jealous of= your organizational skills.<br /><br />Seriously- an outline that's 12,000 words! I'm with Jamie- outlines are the way to go. I'm much happier with them, even if it's just a loose one. <br /><br />I've learned that I need to write every day, and that I can write more a day than I thought :)<br /><br />Way to go!!erica m. chapmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14773306703153110737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8828727132315088852.post-50052266559240160582009-11-11T04:48:17.144+00:002009-11-11T04:48:17.144+00:00I'm in awe of your word count -- and I totally...I'm in awe of your word count -- and I totally agree that outlining plot points helps. Then it's much easier to move from point A to point B and focus on building character and motivation in the process.<br /><br />Love the clean new look of your blog, btw.<br /><br />HD<br />www.wordflix.orgAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8828727132315088852.post-79216891336371367082009-11-11T04:35:44.445+00:002009-11-11T04:35:44.445+00:00First, nice new look. :-)
Second, I'm still j...First, nice new look. :-)<br /><br />Second, I'm still jealous of your word count. ;-)<br /><br />As for what I'm learning...I was experimenting with scene outlines too. And I don't think I'll ever try writing a novel-length work without one again. I'm far happier with how this draft is turning out than I have been with any NaNo draft prior. I didn't get as far as you did, but I'd definitely like to expand to that next time. <br /><br />Congrats on the excellent progress and great success with your outline! :-)Jamie D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05486427517423813962noreply@blogger.com